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Wednesday, May 14, 2003
 
HOLOCAUST THOUGHTS FOR TODAY
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SimShalom :
Hi, how are you doin ?
7 :
good. you?
SimShalom :
Ok thanks.
7 :
cool. it was nice here, too
SimShalom :
yaa, it was cool and "cool" at the same time
7 :
lol!
SimShalom :
I was thinking...you write with clarity , as opposed to some who just beat around the bush and you never quite know what they are really saying
7 :
thank you
SimShalom :
The one about the Holocaust was the one a really read thru..you put a lot of stuff into a "modern" context
7 :
how so?
that one was a school assignment, and a well-done one, I thought.
SimShalom :
Yes it was very well done. You made the Holocaust seem like it could be happening to you and your own family (God Forbid) and how unbelieving your family would be of it..sort like how lot's of people are unbelieving of the Holocaust itself
7 :
I've been reading Holocaust books for years now. I just took what I knew and wrote.
SimShalom :
Yes, but it took a kind of "real time" imagination to take the Holocaust of the past and put it into a place so "close to home"...as a kind of warning or fear that it COULD happen again (God forbid)
7 :
those who fail to remember history are doomed to repeat it. as long as we never forget...
SimShalom :
so tell me how many kids know THAT ?
SimShalom :
you must be the lonely "prophet" in your town
7 :
I'm not
SimShalom :
What kinds of Holocaust books have you read..like Anne Frank?
7 :
anne frank's diary... memories of anne frank, reflection of a childhood friend... seeds of (something, forget the title), the devil's arithmatic... everything I could get my hands on
7 :
I don't remember titles very well. kris's war. lisa's war.
7 :
whatever that one is about the wall, told from the nazi view...
7:
behind my bedroom wall! that's the one!
SimShalom :
You think you will watch the upcoming series on the rise of hitler..?
SimShalom :
ok..take your time..
7:
what series?
SimShalom :
It's going to be on TV one of these days, a two part show on the rise of the early hitler
7 :
what channel?
SimShalom :
i don't recall the channel but i see it advertised in the papers
7 :
oh
SimShalom :
it's gonna be on one of these days...
7 :
well, if you see it mentioned again, could you tell me?
SimShalom :
ok, i will look now...hold on
BRB
7 :
k
SimShalom :
Couldn't find the ad in the paper, so I did the next best thing, a search on Google..so here is something about it..It's gonna be on CBS THIS coming Sunday the 18th on
Hitler: The Rise of Evil Sunday, May 18, and Tuesday, May 20, 9 to 11 p.m.; CBS.

http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/arts/tv/reviews/n_8689/
7 :
thank you.
SimShalom :
Hitler : The Rise of Evil: CBS Sunday May 18 and Tuesday May 20
9 to 11 PM
7 :
I saw.
SimShalom :
Some people from the Simon Wiesenathal center , do you know them , were worried it would make hitler look a little too sympathetic
7 :
never heard of it
SimShalom :
Oh, its THE MOST Important Holocaust Center in The USA, it also has a Museum , it's named for Simon Wiesanthal who is the most famous 'Nazi Hunter" in the world (he is still alive in his 90s and lives in Austria and has captured many fugitive Nazis

SimShalom :
http://www.wiesenthal.com/
7:
the museam in DC?
SimShalom :
They also fight modern hate and prejudice against Jews
SimShalom :
Not in DC, that is the largest Holocaust MUSEUM,
But the Wiesenthal Center is active Anti Nazi organization that fights anything that looks like Jew hatred.
It's like making the Holocaust "lessons' relevant to people in the here and now.
7 :
oh. k. cool.
SimShalom :
The Hebrew University in Jerusalem in Israel also has a huge program to study the Holocaust, take a look at :
http://jewishhistory.huji.ac.il/Internetresources/holocauststudies.htm
7 :
later.
SimShalom:
There is a lady on AOL who has one of the most complete sites on the Holocaust that I have ever seen ...
At :
http://members.aol.com/TeacherNet/Holocaust.html

7 :
k
SimShalom :
And one of the UTMOST best is the NIZKOR (which means "Let us remember") at
http://www.nizkor.org/Dedicated to the millions of Holocaust victims who suffered and died
at the hands of Adolf Hitler http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hitler-adolf/ and his Nazi regime

SimShalom :
It can keep anyone busy for a long time...so take your time..as I do to..
7 :
lol! okay, I will
SimShalom :
I like NIZKOR's motto/slogan a lot:
"Given the evidence ... why do people deny the Holocaust?"
7 :
because people think it is too horrible to be more than a scary story. they refuse to see the truth. they block it out of their minds and refuse to see.
SimShalom :
And NIZKOR gives an answer as :
The cynical truth comes to us by way of an obscure extremist group , which boasts:
"The real purpose of holocaust revisionism is to make
National Socialism an acceptable political alternative again."
SimShalom :
And yes you are VERY correct as well, sadly...
7 :
I know. I hope, as time goes by, people will come to see...
SimShalom :
Nizkor is a Hebrew word which means "We will remember."
7 :
I like it
SimShalom :
Look at this nutty one on
http://www.nizkor.org/encouragements/ scary...
Tom Metzger is the leader of a group called White Aryan Resistance , or W.A.R. In a taped phone-in propaganda message, Mr. Metzger calls his followers' attention to "Zinkor on the Internet."
In reference to those of us who maintain this project, he suggests that his followers "locate them, confront them, and that will be the end of that."
We are taking this threat seriously, because of Mr. Metzger's history of violence: he was found liable, in a civil suit, of inciting three skinheads to beat an Ethiopian immigrant to death. As described in the book Hate Crimes:
Moving up behind Seraw, [Mieske] repeatedly struck him in the back of the head with a baseball bat, while Strasser and Brewster kicked all three black men. When it was over ... Seraw was pronounced dead on arrival. He had died as a result of a fractured skull.
Metzger's reaction to the verdict was to promise more violence : "we will put more blood on the streets than you've ever seen..."
7:
omg...
SimShalom :
There are people that are walking around America really thinking and acting like that..waiting for their time "to come"...bunch of baloney heads that they are..
7:
stupid. it's people like this that make some hide their religion.
SimShalom :
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/metzger.tom/metzger-warns-of-violence"It took only hours for Tom Metzger to publicize his defiant response to the verdict against him. In a recorded message on his hate-filled hotline, the head of WAR issued a warning to his 'new' targets everywhere. In an emotional statement of purpose, he proclaimed that 'we will put blood on the streets like you've never seen and advocate more violence than both World Wars put together...We have a new set of targets to play with. So if you're white and work for the system, watch your step. Whether you be a system cop, a controlled judge, or a crooked lawyer, your ass is grass.[5]" (Levin, 103) [5] Southern Poverty Law Center, "Metzger Warns of More Violence." Work Cited Levin, Jack & Jack McDevitt. Hate Crimes: The Rising Tide of Bigotry and Bloodshed. New York & London: Plenum Press, 1993
7:
scary
SimShalom :
yea, sure is, and the way people think is very, very common today...the Holocaust has driven many Jews more underground than just regular "assimilation".
But it doesn't help them it's like the ostrich sticking it's head in the ground as the lion gets ready to attack it...
The haters will dig out anyone with the slightest Jewish background , just as Hitler did, at least that is how they think.
Anyhow, let us hope to God that it never happens..
7:
yes, let us hope
7 :
night, and lol and thanks.
SimShalom :
Good.
Ok, tell me if you see that TV show.
have a good night.

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